[MD] LC: Expanded Annotation 57

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Marsha,
All I was conveying is that it is all relative. nothing more. and that we base our distinctions
on this relativity.
-Ron




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From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:58:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] LC: Expanded Annotation 57


John,

Maybe you missed my response to Dan and Will that there is no-thing 
there.  Maybe Ron missed it too.


Marsha




At 08:47 AM 5/27/2009, you wrote:
>Marsha
>
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>Time and change have a relationship, yes?
>
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>John
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>I noticed that.
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>Marsha
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>What does it actually mean to state that everything is always in a state of
>change?  Everything!
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>John
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>It makes you wonder how the heck does it even hold together?  Amazing.
>
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>Marsha
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>I'm thinking of the water analogy:  If everything is water, and there is
>nothing that is not water, then there is no meaning to water, for there is
>no way of distinguishing a difference between water and nonwater.
>
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>John
>
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>Like a fish! Yeah!  That makes sense!  I get it.  Unless you have a
>porpoise.  They stick their blow holes into a different context regularly.
>Like me!
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>Marsha
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>Seems if you translate that into change, then what humans have actually
>defined as change is illusion.
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>John
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>Owww.  You just hurt my brain.  I'll have to think about it for a mo.
>
>
>The thing is, when water is ubiquitous you can't help but ignore it and when
>change is all there is,  you can't help but notice.  By it's very
>definition, change is noticed.  Water isn't unless you have a noble
>porpoise.
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>Marsha
>
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>And if our definition of change is an illusion, how can anything be
>conceived of as constant, as in Einstein's 'C', when everything is changing?
>  Against what is it measured?
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>John
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>A syllogism!  I love those if-then things.  Yeah.  Only problem is I tend to
>not them, like this,  what if our definition of change is NOT  an illusion,
>  What then?
>
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>Then our definition of  change is... something different.  I mean,
>"something different".
>
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>Like you get pizza three times a day, seven days a week for a year and then
>one day you think, I'm in the mood something different - a change.  With
>that definition you could get chinese food for a change AND keep Einstein's
>C.
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>A two for one coupon special.
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>Marsha
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>Can you untangle this mess between water, change and time?
>
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>John
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>An asian wise man once said, if it gets messy, eat it over the sink.
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