[MD] to all who get it

[John Carl]

 Ian, Gav,

> >  What is Philosophy without argument?
>
> gav said:
> > i disagree.
>
> I agree with Gav.
> Two things wrong with what you say John.
>
> (1) Thinking of anything as a question of one group "stopping" another
> doing something is a scary concept to start with.
>
> (2) Pirsgian philosophy is a philosophy of living. Individuals doing
> valuable things. Argument is only ever a part of it, never the point
> of it. One tool in the intellectual toolkit as gavin says.
>

The group/individual dynamic tension is something I wanna explore sometime.
  But I agree completely that argument is not the point of philosophy.

The point is persuading everyone that I got the biggest tool.