[MD] The cooking ape

[Krimel]

John said to dmb:Quality could be good, it could be bad. Quality  is
basically value-free.
 interesting...

dmb says:If I may expose the flawed logic by way of analogy...
Chewing gum could be fruity, it could be spearmint. Chewing gum is basically
flavor-free.

[Krimel]
That's fine until you start claiming that chewing gum is always good and
that chewing it always makes it better, no matter who's doing the chewing.