[MD] Is it serious?

[MarshaV]

Greetings Mark,

What illusion do you think K has used as a replacement?  In my mind, 
it is an experiencing self without attachment to the baggage, but how 
would you describe the K's new illusion?


Marsha



At 09:09 PM 5/28/2009, you wrote:
>Sound to me like K is replacing one illusion with another.
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>On May 28, 2009, at 3:23:44 AM, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>Based on the Discussion Between J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm in The
>Ending of Time:
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>"The 'I'-consciousness, feels the stress and strain of its burden,
>and tries to move out of it, but it is all in vain.  It has not
>reckoned with the fact that one can move out of that, that is real;
>but it is not possible to move away from an illusion.  The illusion
>is to be dispelled in coming upon a perception of the same.  The
>thought has to see for itself, that a consciousness which is a sum
>total of thoughts based on experience-knowledge and memory drawn from
>the past, does not in any way constitute what constitutes ever new
>formations of the cosmic reality; that a perception of 'what is' of
>this movement cannot be understood through a medium, which is
>structured by the constituents of a static model rooted in the past;
>and that, almost all constituents of consciousness are dispensable in
>the near future, or at a later date.  The thought has to see for
>itself consciousness is an accumulation of thoughts, and the thought
>of the 'me' is not the real me.  One meditates, and through one's own
>meditation one comes upon an understanding of the roots of
>psychological knowledge, and the necessity of moving out of the
>accumulation of time as knowledge, and dropping the entire burden of
>one's redundant memory from moment to moment."
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The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and 
interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual, 
static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.

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