[MD] Is it serious?

[X Acto]

John,
I think you have a great point, the common concept of the self is useful.
What is being stated is that this common concept is often taken as absolute
entity-ship and the anchor point for rationalized metaphysical assumptions.
Even in physical objective terms, it does not hold up under scrutiny, it is only
after assumption built on assumption of condensed simplified memory of experiences
does the subjective "self" emerge. Does the newborn expereince a self? is the self
in it's most primal form, the response to stimuli? Ham states that the self is value sensability
but when one looks around, what doesent have value sensability? are we talking
intellectual value sensability? social value sensability? biological value sensability?
inorganic value sensability?  to me it is contextual and within that context useful
in metaphysical terms of basing arguements,in Linguistic terms of distinction
and psychological terms of social identity. I mean, is the self simply the locus
of stored expeiences? easily annihilated with an electro shock to the frontal lobe?
Pirsig seemed to think so.

-Ron




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From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:49:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Is it serious?

>
> I think the 'I', the unique 'I' does not exist.
>


you might be objectively right, Andre, but why go there?  Why would anyone
choose non-existence?

I know I exist,  I know its a choice I mindfully make.  I could choose
not-existence, or I could blend my soul with the herd and cease to be
unique.  Those choices are within my realm and I imagine they are in
everybody else's.  What is sad is when people don't realize they have a
choice.  When they feel forced to be this way or that way rather than follow
their true nature.

when the choice presents itself, I prefer existence.  I think you should
make that choice.  I think everybody should.

Free will is choice is consciousness is self
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