[MD] The Self?

[markhsmit]

On May 30, 2009, at 8:49:30 AM, Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com> wrote:
Willblake2
My main question is what makes the self me as opposed to
anyone else.  All this process definition is great to describe
how the self exists, but it avoids the intensely personal aspect
of it.

It doesn't matter to me whether it exists or not.  What is it
about the self that makes it mine.

[Krimel]
It is your physiology interacting with your environment and relying on your
encoding of previous experience. Your consciousness arises from these
process. You seem to be alluding to Chalmers' hard problem. I rather like
something I heard from John Searle; the mind is what the brain does or the
brain secretes consciousness or that these various processes produce
consciousness in the same way the fire produces heat or that atoms produce
solidity. But of course others, especially the Aw Gis don't buy any of that.
They see our form of consciousness are a degeneration of so high all
pervading consciousness. This is top down processing. I see it as bottom up.
Consciousness emerges from the static quality that gives rise to the
conditions that produce it.

Krimel,
I may be real dense, but your answer does not seem to answer my question.  When you speak of
"your physiology" what is the "your".  What makes it personally mine, or personally yours?  I can
understand a system approach to consciousness, but not to the personal sense of being.

Perhaps I am stuck in a question that doesn't exist or that I am expecting a different sort of answer for
that doesn't exist.

Willblake2


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