[MD] qUALITY

[MarshaV]

No, Krimel, but I thought you would surely have an example.




At 11:24 AM 5/31/2009, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
>Is the feedback other than Quality(static and Dynamic)?
>
>[Krimel]
>What could that even be?
>I have never heard of such a thing.
>Do you have an example in mind?
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>At 01:21 PM 5/30/2009, you wrote:
> >[Marsha]
> >Is it that the self (static patterns of value) is a constituent of
> >Quality, but too often mistakes itself for the generator of Quality?
> >
> >[ron]
> >I like that Marsha.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >I like it too except that sometimes the self is a generator of Quality.
> >Sure we are mistaken a lot, but every once in a while don't you look at
> >something you have done and say, "It is Good."
> >
> >Ron:
> >I agree, positive feedback loop.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >Just to be nitpicky but without negative feedback to dampen it, a positive
> >feedback loop oscillates out of control back into chaos. But it may just be
> >that I have more experience with negative feedback. I look at most of stuff
> >I have done and say, "It is shit." Maybe it is just the lean schedule but I
> >have found a little bit of positive feedback goes a long way.
> >
> >[Willblake2]
> >A positive feedback loop oscillates itself into chaos, or back into chaos.
> >  This topic seems interesting.
> >I was wondering if there was a breaking point, and what causes it.  Is it
> >possible that chaos is a
> >very complex positive loop, or perhaps just a loop iteself?  I need to
>brush
> >up on Chaos theory,
> >it's been a while.  Like, where is the distinction between chaos and order.
> >  How does Chaos apply to
> >Quality.  Sometimes I think that all forms of thought are rooted in
>Quality.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >At least as I understand it, order emerges from chaos. Order is a subset of
> >chaos. But a really deep answer to the question is that order is a
> >perceptual phenomena. It is the results of our effort to extract meaning
> >from experience. We detect patterns or common features of our experience.
>By
> >comparing immediate impressions with past experience we construct
>categories
> >for classifying experience. These categories are discrete patterns derived
> >from the continuous flow of experience. They are our way of imposing order
> >on a dynamic flow. We create a static foreground out of the dynamic
> >background. But as you can see by reading these threads a whole lot of
> >confusion comes from confusing our categories for the flow from which they
> >are derived.
> >
> >As a side note I think that the result of a positive feedback loop depends
> >on what is looping. With a microphone and amplifier, for example, it
>depends
> >on how robust the electronics of the amplifier are and how well the
>speakers
> >are built. But regardless of how well they are built, they will eventually
> >destroy themselves in a nonlinear fashion.
> >
> >
> >
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>The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and
>interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual,
>static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.
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The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and 
interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual, 
static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.

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