[MD] The resolution of the mind/matter platypus.

[MarshaV]

I agree.  I'm taking a copy of Bo's reply to Mark to the poll to read again
when I get a few minutes.  

Marsha



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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Andre Broersen
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [MD] The resolution of the mind/matter platypus.

Hi Squonk and Bodvar:

Excellent posts!! Very clear, simple, to-the-point clarification of a
pernicious dilemma. It has furthered my understanding of the MoQ immensely.

Bo:
I actually agree with you about the "dynamic" issue - "yelping" I call - but
I have no problems with "all this talk of values" (a strange statement from
a moqist) if it means the static levels.
Squonk:
It?s a bit like having a vocabulary with 5 words in it, one of them being
value.
These 5 words are a good tool for organising experience, but my poetic sense
feels like there?s sod all on the menu.

Andre:
Yeah, why take the easy way if there is a much more difficult and
complicated one! It reminds me of Pirsig referring to the thousands of acres
of rainforest being turned into pulp producing 'hundreds of volumes of
philosophy available on this matter...'(Lila, p157) and still no
resolution...until the MoQ.

'The idea that the world is composed of nothing but moral value sounds
impossible at first' (Lila,p 101).

'When one takes the whole ill-shaped, misfitting structure of a
subject-object explained universe apart and puts it back together in a
value-centered metaphysics, all kinds of orphaned pieces fit beautifully
that never fit before'. (Lila,p105-6).

Mr.Pirsig needed only two volumes. ZMM the dynamic, inductive one and
Lila, the static, deductive one.

'ZMM has, in some ways, what is the most important part of the MoQ which is
the build-up. It is an inductive book. LILA is a deductive book... . ZMM is
a build-up from the inductive experience of the narrative into this final
word- Quality- into what is the essence of the MoQ' (Pirsig in McWatt, A
Critical Analysis...p8)

Bodvar:
Phew! A whole day spent at the computer. . .

Andre:
I hope it provided some quality results for you.

Thank you both.

Regards
Andre
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