[MD] The resolution of the mind/matter platypus.
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Wed Nov 4 01:25:23 PST 2009
Hi Andre
3 Nov.you wrote:
> Hi Squonk and Bodvar:
> Excellent posts!! Very clear, simple, to-the-point clarification of a
> pernicious dilemma. It has furthered my understanding of the MoQ
> immensely.
Thanks Andre, are you back in China or ...? Looking forward to hear
more from you. At the present I alternate between being a
"kindergarten uncle" and attending scholastic hair-splitting sessions
with the oldies.
Bodvar.
> Bo:
> I actually agree with you about the "dynamic" issue - "yelping" I call
> - but I have no problems with "all this talk of values" (a strange
> statement from a moqist) if it means the static levels. Squonk: It?s a
> bit like having a vocabulary with 5 words in it, one of them being
> value. These 5 words are a good tool for organising experience, but my
> poetic sense feels like there?s sod all on the menu.
>
> Andre:
> Yeah, why take the easy way if there is a much more difficult and
> complicated one! It reminds me of Pirsig referring to the thousands of
> acres of rainforest being turned into pulp producing 'hundreds of
> volumes of philosophy available on this matter...'(Lila, p157) and
> still no resolution...until the MoQ.
>
> 'The idea that the world is composed of nothing but moral value sounds
> impossible at first' (Lila,p 101).
>
> 'When one takes the whole ill-shaped, misfitting structure of a
> subject-object explained universe apart and puts it back together in a
> value-centered metaphysics, all kinds of orphaned pieces fit
> beautifully that never fit before'. (Lila,p105-6).
>
> Mr.Pirsig needed only two volumes. ZMM the dynamic, inductive one and
> Lila, the static, deductive one.
>
> 'ZMM has, in some ways, what is the most important part of the MoQ
> which is the build-up. It is an inductive book. LILA is a deductive
> book... . ZMM is a build-up from the inductive experience of the
> narrative into this final word- Quality- into what is the essence of
> the MoQ' (Pirsig in McWatt, A Critical Analysis...p8)
>
> Bodvar:
> Phew! A whole day spent at the computer. . .
>
> Andre:
> I hope it provided some quality results for you.
>
> Thank you both.
>
> Regards
> Andre
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