[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

[markhsmit]

On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:16:18 PM, "Andre Broersen" <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
Mark:
The fact that MOQ claims to be dealing with Evolution in the sense that it
is something beyond our control and directional, will provide politicians
justification for abuse. ?

Andre:
Who makes this claimand where is this stated Mark? I do not understand.
DQ as the 'driving force' within our concept of evolution has shown
preferences. It is not based on the laws of cause and effect. With the
emergence of the intellectual level we have learned that 'evolution' is not
in the hands of the Gods (i.e beyond/out of our control). It puts the onus
squarely on us as rational/moral beings.
In this sence intellect can provide a rational/moral justification to
politicians (a social pattern of value) to not abuse... i.e work outside
the MoQ 'programme'.

Hi Andre,
I do not say that anybody makes the claim that our rational/moral being is
the new God.  But let's say, that someone in power did say this.  Who would
determine which morality is correct?  If indeed we have reached the
highest level, that is by our intellect (or concepts without any physical basis),
does this give us the need to use this intellect to direct further evolution?
Or does this level then get overseen by the next level.  By analogy and
extrapolation, what is the next level?

The point is, that if humans are indeed part of a jump in evolution, are
we then caretakers of the rest of the planet? Solar system? Universe.
Sometimes it would seem that this elevation of human characteristics
is very close to the Christian or Buddhist notion of our importance.
Human history (even recent) displays a clear suggestion that our
human characteristics are in many ways less evolved than plants or
animals.  It is dangerous, especially in political circles to provide
a basis for our supremacy.

Cheers,
Mark