[MD] suspended in language

[Steven Peterson]

Hi Matt, Ron,

> Ron said:
> A fine point Steve, in fact, it's this sort of preconception
> that Pirsig hoped to save Pragmatism from with the MoQ.
> with a value centered metaphysic "Good" ceases to be
> relative and meaningless, the good in MoQ, has 4 distinct
> heirarchal meanings. It's not "anything you like". thats
> why the whole moral order concept was so
> groundbreaking to the Pragmatic cause.
>
> Matt:
> I'm not sure Pirsig's so-called innovation within
> pragmatism was either needed (I don't think it broke
> ground) or desirable (I think it might have been
> retrogressive).

Steve:
But it wasn't really an innovation *within* pragmatism. What is
interesting to me is that Pirsig seems to be unaware of the critiques
against SOM coming from the pragmatist and existentialist movements,
yet comes to pretty much the same place from an entirely different
direction. What is so impressive about Pirsig is that he made these
same critiques so artfully within a semi-autobiographical narrative
that made such ideas accessible to a fairly wide audience.

Best,
Steve



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