[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Ham] 
> In the absence of this sensible agent, neither the universe nor its inferred Value (Quality) 
> exists. 

Some parts of the universe--like bridges or paintings--would not exist in the 
"absence of sensible agents".  But on closer inspection they are made of metal & oil 
which not only predate humans but all life forms on earth. 
Pirsig's insight was that the universe that is not directly observed could consist of 
quarks, strings or m-branes; have electrons with circular orbits or shells; have 4 or 17 
dimensions--in short, whatever works.  But from the fact that we create the STRUCTURE 
of the universe that best explains it, it doesn't follow that we create the universe itself or 

that it wouldn't exist without us.   
Craig