[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Mon Nov 16 13:30:31 PST 2009


Ron,

Betterness is a full woodbox.



On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> John,
> what is betterness?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
>
> [Arlo]
> >  The thing I will point out, however, is that "God" is not a metaphor for
> > "DQ", BOTH are metaphors for the undefinable. And in this sense, I ask
> not
> > only which term makes a better metaphor, but given the MOQ's metaphor
> what
> > does that entail as a explanation.
> >
>
>
> Good point, almost.  I'd say that God is a metaphor created by humans in
> response to DQ.  DQ is that pull toward betterness that drives men to make
> metaphysical explications of reality.
>
>
>
> It also denies that the cosmos was somehow created "for" man, what Platt's
> > comment about quarks exhibiting value preference in order to make the
> cosmos
> > recognizable by man. As stable patterns of value emerged from "beginning
> > responses to Quality", conflict did not always favor the path of "greater
> > freedom". Nor does it now.
> >
>
>   Man is part of the cosmos, they arise mutually, co-creatively and always
> together.  That's just the way it is.  All the rest is speculation, fantasy
> and imagination.  Our only task is asking what is Good about this
> speculation vs. that speculation.  Preferring  "emergence" over "creation"
> is ok.  Affirming one as true over the other is not.
>
>
> >
> >
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