[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

[MarshaV]

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On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:



>
> Marsha:
> RMP has stated that the MoQ is athestic and anti-theistic.  Buddhism is
> atheistic religion.  I am an atheist. My defintion of an atheist is:
> Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural
> beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that
> these concepts are not meaningful.
>
>

John:
Marsha I must ask, is the law of gravity also a man-made construct?  Are
you?  Am I?  Is everything we know or imagine or think about?  In fact, what
concept can you hold in your head that is not a man-made construct?  Or a
woman-made?

Marsha:
Some patterned constructs are meaningul, some are not. The concept of God is
not meaningful for me.  The Abrahamic based religions are not meaningful for
me.  But, I'll repeat that Tom Robbin's quote that I find very meaningful:


I believe in nothing,
Everything is sacred.
I believe in everything,
Nothing is sacred.
        




> Quality is unpatterned experience and patterned experience.  How could I
> deny quality?
>
> Who is Christ?  Did he leave something in writing?  I don't think so.
>
>

John:
Only once, that is recorded.  Some scratchings in the dust for the benefit
of a witch condemned to die.  But after her accusers read what he wrote,
they all dispersed and she was left alive to wander away and sin no more.

The words just blew away as well.

As words tend to do.

Marsha:
It's not for me, John.  If I needed to believe in something, I would choose
Mother Nature, but in my heart the Tom Robbin's quote says it best.