[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

[MarshaV]

Willblake2,

Embrace the God-pattern if you choose. I will not argue against your
decision, but neither will I support it.  I reject it, and have explained
that for me the concept of God is not meaningful. The definitions and
connotations attached to the word 'God' makes it, in my opinion, gibberish.
-  Shall we next discuss whether the earth is round or flat?

I am inclined to think that the MoQ-Quality is a genius-made construct. It
is, of course, an analogy or pattern, but one with very little baggage and
an analogy which the MoQ expressly states cannot be properly conceptualized,
divided or defined. Quality represents reality as unpatterned experience and
patterned experience, and of course I experience 'experience'.  

All beliefs are relative to a frame-of-reference and when the
frame-of-reference changes so does the belief.  Isn't that what the Lila
character said in Chapter 14?  The MoQ representing unpatterned experience
and patterned experience is my frame-of-reference, and represents for me a
more sane world-view. 


Marsha




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Hi Marsha,
Man-made constructs, huh?  Is Quality a man-made construct?
I do not see the difference.  Do you believe in Quality?  What is the
basis for this belief?  How is it that you separate that belief from
the belief in any other God?  Can you feel Quality?  Perhaps it
is God you are feeling.

To think that our belief today is anymore real than a belief of
3000 years ago is simply silly.

I am speaking of the legend of Christ, not the person.

Cheers,
Willblake2


Marsha:
RMP has stated that the MoQ is athestic and anti-theistic.  Buddhism is
atheistic religion.  I am an atheist. My defintion of an atheist is:
Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural
beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these
concepts are not meaningful.   
Quality is unpatterned experience and patterned experience.  How could I
deny quality? 
Who is Christ?  Did he leave something in writing?  I don't think so.


Marsha
 




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illblake2
 am continually surprised by you anti-theism position.  Yet
ou believe in Quality.  I suppose if theism denotes the presence
f a supreme being, then I get your point.  But what if it is
omething entirely different from that.  What if these religions
re only providing a metaphor for what is going on?
Christ spoke of a father in heaven.  What if what he meant
as: the feeling he got was similar to that of a loving father?
e all have different fathers, so its hard to relate, but it was
is attempt to relay his mystical experience (then abused by
he rising Church).  You may claim that you are athiest, but
an you deny that the feeling of God does exist?  I believe
ll you can deny is that you have never had it.
Just my opinion of course, and I am no God worshiper in the
raditional sense.

arsha:
MP has stated that the MoQ is athestic and anti-theistic.  Buddhism is
theistic religion.  I am an atheist. My defintion of an atheist is:
theists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural
eings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these
oncepts are not meaningful.    
Quality is unpatterned experience and patterned experience.  How could I
eny quality?  
Who is Christ?  Did he leave something in writing?  I don't think so.

arsha


 
   
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