[MD] neener neener

[John Carl]

Bo,

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:16 AM, <skutvik at online.no> wrote:

. However, now, I have no trouble
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> switching back to SOM, it was the first shift UPWARDS which was
> tricky and happened upon reading ZAMM, guess I was primed for it,
> thus Phaedrus insight that the SOM is Quality's (first - and called
> "intellect" in that book) fall-out was revelation.
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So, you were suffering in the land of "oops", ZAMM gave you your "aha!" and
you've been struggling for the "ahhhh" ever since.

That song has been running through my head since Arlo hummed it and now I
can't get it out of my brain.



> It's the "intelligence-intellect" confusion (the notion that the 4th. level
> is
> = intelligence) which is the chief stumbling stone, and it may take an
> effort to switch from the SOM where the term "intellect" seems
> chiseled in stone to mean MIND, to the MOQ where its 4th. level IS the
> MIND/not MIND distinction. This switch is no smooth operation, but a
> quantum jump.
>

I think when we speak of levels of patterns, when we say 4th level we're not
talking about Intellect, we're talking about intellectual patterns -
philosophies, metaphysical systems of understanding reality.  This
"intellect" name for the level has confused me at times, but realizing that
people come and go, but the patterns of thought get passed down
generationally and thus does intellectual evolution occur, helped me to
straighten out the misunderstanding.  That's why I think it's helpful to
label the 4th level the metaphysical level, or perhaps the Philosophy level.
 With SOM being ONE philosophy among many.

Now, is the MoQ contained within this level that is formed by the MoQ?  That
gives you the willies, and perhaps there is a way to untangle the
container/contained issue, but I think that's a do-able process.  We just
need to pursue the proper methods.




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