[MD] British Emergentism

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Platt]
DQ is freedom, a productive force.

[Arlo]
DQ is freedom, to be sure, but its not "productive". To say otherwise 
is self-contradictory, like saying "slavery is freedom".

Consider my previous example, saying "the sun controls the 
temperature on our planet". I think everyone would read this and 
understand that this is quite a metaphoric use of the word "control". 
No one envisions the sun being slightly concerned with, nor 
respective of, our planet. No one envisions the sun acting with 
intent, nor deliberate orchestration to "make" our temperature any certain way.

As I had shown John, such word use also become silly when you could 
also say "the distance between the sun and earth controls the earth's 
temperature", or "the Van Allen Radiation Belt controls the earth's 
temperature". You could also say that "thermohaline circulation in 
the oceans controls the earth's temperature", and even that "the 
ozone layer controls the earth's temperature". At this point 
"control" is pretty much meaningless in any real way. It simply 
becomes that everything is "controlled" by everything in its 
experiential field.

Much, much better to say, "the earth's temperature is a response TO 
these combined things". It says the same thing, does not dilute 
"control" (or "create") into meaningless expressions, and preserves 
the understanding that nothing is orchestrating any of this.

"Produce", like "create" and "control", are action verbs. Quality 
does not "act", Quality simply "is". And it is in response TO 
Quality, that "acts" occur.

It is subatomic particles that "act", in response to DQ. It is not 
"DQ" does does this action.

And again, you continue to miss that the "freedom" in the system to 
which you pay lipservice entails "chance", the unexpected, the 
unknown. If you really profess to acknowledging "freedom", the 
"beginning response to DQ" that the cosmos is built upon, then 
welcome to the possibility, or chance, that you or I and humankind 
may never have been here.

You continue to want "freedom" and "certainty", and you simply can't. 
Well, not within the MOQ. Maybe Qualigod gives you that, but theism always has.