[MD] British Emergentism
plattholden at gmail.com
plattholden at gmail.com
Thu Nov 19 07:43:37 PST 2009
Hey Andre,
On 19 Nov 2009 at 16:12, Andre Broersen wrote:
> Andre:
> Platt in Lila's Child, p 66:
> ' As I understand it, the MoQ equates Quality with direct experience.
> In turn, experience creates static patterns of value. The problem is-
> how could inorganic static patterns be created unless inorganic
> entities like atoms were able to experience?
>
> RMP, Annotation 30:
> 'I think the answer is that inorganic objects experience events but do
> not react to them biologically,socially or intellectually. They react
> to these experiences inorganically, according to the laws of physics'.
Right. Atoms experience. Consciousness is immanent at all levels.
> Platt:
> If atoms don't experience, at what level did experience arise? And,
> how could experience arise from a lower level of no experience?
>
> RMP,Annotation 31:
> Since experience is the starting point, it doesn't arise from a lower
> level of no experience. Logically speaking, a starting point that
> arises from something else is no longer a starting point'.
If experience is the starting point, time is presumed. So it begs the
question. "When did the starting point begin?" I don't know of any
answer given by Pirsig. So I'd be interested in yours.
Platt
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