[MD] British Emergentism

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Craig, previously] 
> [Time's starting point begins] with the first experience. 

[Platt] 
> When was that? "First" implies a point in time.  

Your mistake is seeing time & experience as independent. 
It's NOT like time was merrily passing along with nothing 
happening, then experiences started popping up.  Time just 
is the sequence of experiences--the first moment of time is 
the first experience (&, of course, vice versa). 

[Arlo] 
> "Time" is a perceptual pattern derived from the experience of 
> sufficiently complex patterns of life. Atoms do not experience "time". 

This exemplifies the opposite mistake.  Consider, the oceans waves, 
sometimes SLOWLY rolling in, but DURING a turbulence RAPIDLY 
crashing to the shore.  Thus it has always been.  This difference does 
not depend upon humans.  It's not as if we could take marijuana 
& slow down the waves or take meth & speed them up. 
As the poet said "Time & tide wait for no man." 
Craig