[MD] British Emergentism

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Andre:

Suddenly from nothing came something. Is that your position?. Do you 
think that's the MOQ position? 

Platt



On 19 Nov 2009 at 18:54, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Platt to Andre:
> If experience is the starting point, time is presumed. So it begs the
> question. "When did the starting point begin?" I don't know of any
> answer given by Pirsig.  So I'd be interested in yours.
> 
> Andre:
> Reality (Quality) is experience. Point zero, time zero. The moment of
> zero containing the universe. Time is superfluous.
> 
> Please Platt, remember that Phaedrus compared Quality with the
> Tao...the Way, the Buddhist emptiness.
> 
> We are talking about existence (patterned) and non- existence
> (unpatterned). At the cutting edge of this moment there is: not
> this-not that... but an emptiness that is full.
> 
> I think that to try to understand Mr.Pirsig and his MoQ fully you must
> experience the nothing. Totally nothing. Absolutely nothing. It is
> vital to keep all concepts out of the DQ. If you insist you are
> following a different path from the MoQ..which is fine but then do not
> use the MoQ to justify your path...you are on your own. Which is fine.
> 
> Zennies would say that , that is the way to go...well go...but do not
> abuse  the MoQ in the process.
> 
> Kind regards
> Andre
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