[MD] British Emergentism

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On 19 Nov 2009 at 18:23, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:

> 
> [Craig, previously] 
> > [Time's starting point begins] with the first experience. 
> 
> [Platt] 
> > When was that? "First" implies a point in time.  
> 
> Your mistake is seeing time & experience as independent. 
> It's NOT like time was merrily passing along with nothing 
> happening, then experiences started popping up.  Time just 
> is the sequence of experiences--the first moment of time is 
> the first experience (&, of course, vice versa). 

I don't see how anything, including time, can be independent of 
experience. Are you suggesting that experience is outside time? If so 
we're getting into Plato's timeless world of ideals. Not sure Pirsig would 
want to go there. 

Or maybe you're suggesting "time is experience and experience is 
time." In that case, Pirsig's notion of a starting "point in time" of 
experience is nonsensical. 

Platt