[MD] Freedom and the Good

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Thanks, Andre. but I don't see how your interpretation applies to what 
Pirsig wrote, like the following:

"They do this by selecting superatomic mechanisms in which a number 
of options are so evenly balanced that a weak Dynamic FORCE can tip 
the balance one way or another. The particular atom that the weak 
Dynamic subatomic FORCES have seized as their primary vehicle is 
carbon." (Lila, 11)

I suppose you could argue that he's talking about "events." But to me if 
he meant "events" he would have described what happened that way  
instead of pointing to Dynamic "force" and "forces."

I also noted in McWatt's paper on time and the MOQ that he wrote, "For 
him (Pirsig) Dynamic Quality creates all things manifest in the universe." 
-- challenging your statement that Quality doesn't cause or create 
anything. 

In any case, I respect your opinion and also admit I could be wrong. 

Regards,
Platt   
 



On 22 Nov 2009 at 16:11, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Platt to Andre:
> Perhaps you can explain for me the difference between a literal and a
> metaphorical force. Seems to me both connote change.
> 
> Andre:
> Hi Platt, I agree that both connote change but to attribute a 'force'-
> like quality to Quality (hihi-smiley) is, imho, not correct. Quality
> simply is. It is similar to suggesting that Quality 'creates'
> something. Quality doesn't 'cause' or 'create' anything. Much rather
> to convey what is meant is that it is an 'event' (ZMM,p233) and this
> event is the 'cause' (of the subjects and objects). ZMMp, 234.
> 
> Platt:
> Are you saying then that DQ is a sometimes thing, here today, gone
> tomorrow?
> 
> Andre:
> No, DQ is. Ideas such as 'thing', 'today', 'tomorrow' are abstracted
> from the (DQ) 'event'.
> 
> Platt:
> How would you describe them?
> 
> Andre:
> Similar to the above.
> 
> But, as Phil Collins once sang: 'Again and again, I ask myself, was I wrong?'
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