[MD] Freedom and the Good

[markhsmit]

Hi Platt,

Just started reading this string.  I would describe Quality as an Expression.

Mark

On Nov 21, 2009, at 7:47:14 AM, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
From:   plattholden at gmail.com
Subject:    Re: [MD] Freedom and the Good
Date:   November 21, 2009 7:47:14 AM PST
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
On 21 Nov 2009 at 15:58, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Platt:
> Pirsig calls Quality a moral force and refers to the creative power of
> the Dynamic force a number of times. Since it's a natural force, it's
> like gravity and other fundamental forces of the cosmos. To argue that
> no one can precisely measure this force is not to prove it doesn't
> exist. What proves it does exist is that the world would be
> unrecognizable without it.
> 
> Andre:
> With all respect Platt, I think Pirsig's use of the word 'force' in
> relation to Quality (as he does in LILA) is used metaphorically, not
> literally. 

Perhaps you can explain for me the difference between a literal and a 
metaphorical force. Seems to me both connote change. 

Again, Pirsig is quite adamant to 'keep all concepts out of
> Dynamic Quality'. (In McWatt, PhD).By suggesting it is a force in the
> way you use it, you are making it into something static and that is
> not what it is. (Not this/not that)

Are you saying then that DQ is a sometimes thing, here today, gone 
tomorrow?
 
> To describe Quality as a force is the same as describing Yin/Yang as
> forces. They are not.

How would you describe them?

Thanks.
Platt



Moq_Discuss mailing list
Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
Archives:
http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/