[MD] Emotions

[Andre Broersen]

Bodvar:
To say that emotions starts at the biological  level, i.e. "the objective,
real thing"  and that the social level just subjectivizes these things  is
superimposing SOM on the MOQ. This rreflects Pirsig's inorg. + bio. =
objective/socio. + intelle = subjective which is the greatest undermining
of the MOQ there is. The social level's emotions is a reality level in its
own right, it's neither subjective nor objective.

Andre:
I really do not understand that, as you imply, a social PoV can
express an emotion. Only a biological PoV can. Does a family cry, can
a free market laugh, can the church blush, can a government get angry?
No! Only biological patterns can, in response to quality. This is not
the same thing as quality. It is a biological response to quality
which has been given social meaning/designation/interpretation.

The rest is something completely beyond me Bodvar: the 'biological'
being the 'objective real thing'? The social level just subjectivizing
'these things'?
As Anthony suggests in his PhD the subject and object terms used in
Lila should only be thought of as applying 'very loosely' to the
static levels.

The MoQ has replaced subjects and objects with static patterns of
value. I suggest we throw subjects and objects out altogether.

Bodvar:
If emotions were biological why don't animals laugh, smile, blush, "die
of shame"  ...etc..

Andre:
How do you know they don't? Not too sure about shame though.

Bodvar:
Where have you been Andre, getting all these anti-moqish notions?

Andre:
Just sittin' Bodvar...just sittin'.