[MD] Emotions

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Fri Nov 13 09:21:01 PST 2009


Hi Marksmit

11 Nov.

> Ah yes, the Emotions.  That primitive animal sensibility. It is quite
> possible that that which we call the intellect is simply an appendage
> of the so call emotions.  A small part of our brain that developed so
> that we could communicate such emotions.  A little region in the front
> of our brains that somehow became all that there is.  A prefrontal
> group of neurons that became so self serving, that it relegated the
> rest of the body to merely an appendage.   

Emotions are neither biological nor primitive, they are the social 
expression "par excellance". And "intellect" is not an appendage of 
anything, but the MOQ's highest level. Write that down! Don't take my 
schoolmaster tone too serious, but I'm exasperated over this emotion 
as biology nonsense.  

Intellect is out of/on top of society*) so intellect's REASON  is definitely 
out of society's EMOTION, but no appendage. And the levels are not 
"located" in the brain even if neural complexity - the neocortex 
especially -  plays a part for "intelligence", but this must NOT be 
confused with the MOQ's intellect.      

*) society = the social level, not any ant colony.

> The intellect is used to transfer emotions.  It is no more separate 
> from the rest of the body than the eye or the skin.  

Had you only said "transcend". Any level's purpose is to escape its 
parent level, thus intellect's evil is emotion what REASON scoffs at 
and calls "subjective". However another Q-tenet is that intellect has 
social roots and will never truly be free. LILA's example of this is the 
scientist who will "manipulate" experiments to obtain social fame and 
fortune. 

"Intellect no more separate from the rest ...etc". Of course, intellect is 
out of society which is out of biology, which is out of "inorgany" ... ALL 
ARE OUT OF QUALITY!!!  

> It is part and parcel of sensibility.

Yes, intellect is out of society, but all Q-levels are realities in their own 
right and their causes are to transcend the former level. No need to re-
invent the wheel ;-)      

> To elevate the intellect above the emotions is like saying the coach is
> the team, the ski is the skier, the apple is the tree.  
 
Intellect is the highest static level, but right now the enormous difficult 
task is to transcend intellect and begin to see things from MOQ's 
perspective and that seems next to impossible. That you Marksmit 
lapses back - or never have left - intellect(SOM) is forgivable, but this 
discussion has alleged moqists who work overtime to keep the MOQ 
from leaving intellect - from leaving SOM.     .  

> It's fine to have levels, but sometimes I think the MOQ has got them
> completely backwards.  The intellect is such a small portion of the
> inorganic that it is almost insignificant. 

You display the said intellect-SOM view, but as a newbie you are 
magnanimously forgiven. (SMILEY)            

> And, the emotions are so much more than the biological, they are
> inorganic forces which create our selves.

"Emotions are so much more than the biological" True, but "...they are 
inorganic forces ... etc." Phew!  The "self" (the self-conscious entity 
that sits inside our heads) is an intellectual (SOM) product. 


Bodvar, the "terror" of this site ;-)  







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