[MD] suspended in language

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Fri Nov 13 10:06:30 PST 2009


Marsha,

You're always displaying my favorite quotes as if they belonged to you.  How
can I argue against that?

And yet, I must.  I must continually postulate an absolute, I must indulge
in metaphysics and I must give cowgirls the blues.

Deal with it.

Yours,

John


On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:26 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
> Hi John
>
> I think of 'absolutes' as an empty category.  Yet what you wrote reminds me
> of Tom Robbins quote from ' Even Cowgirls Get the Blues':
>
>
> I believe in nothing,
> Everything is sacred.
> I believe in everything,
> Nothing is sacred.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of John Carl
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:21 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] suspended in language
>
> "When Jame and Royce taught at Harvard the issues between Pragmatism and
> Idealism were perhaps most muddied because the two men were pictured as
> opponents.  I shall try to show, however, that Royce was a pragmatist as
> early as 1880 and that it was easy for him to develop an idealistic
> ontology
> *because* he was a pragmatist.  As Royce later called his doctrine Absolute
> Pragmatism, we may interpret James as a pluralistic idealist. The
> epistemological disputes between the two men were over specific and highly
> technical points, but they shared certain peculiar beliefs whose central
> feature we may label pragmatic and whose affinities to idealism we ought to
> recognize."
>
> Kucklick's Intellectual History of Royce
>
>
> When I was still in SDA boarding school, my one good friend and
> philosophical antagonist, Johnny E, and I debated the question back and
> forth while playing basketball.  Are there any absolutes?  He took the side
> of no, I said yes.  The way I our debate formulated these terms for us then
> is that either you believed that everything is relative, there are no
> absolutes or there is an absolute and everything is relative to it.
>
> Now if you believe that everything is generated by Quality, then this term
> stands for an indefinable absolute and you must not be a relativist.  Since
> I recommended ZAMM to him after college, it became his favorite book and
> thus I figure I won the debate.
>
> I don't remember who won the basketball game.  Probably me also.
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