[MD] Intellect Worship

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Mati

4 Oct. 

> >> For myself, being "intellectual" is a reflective process of the
> >> understanding the world around us.

> > Bo:This leads to the "intellectual caveman". All human beings have
> > had an understanding of "their world" since time immemorial, I'd say
> > this relentless interpretation of existence  is what characterizes
> > the social (human being) level.
 
> Mati: So we are clear there is a difference between intellectual and
> intellect.  

Intellect and intellectual are the Q-level while intelligence is a 
biological brain function

> IHO intellectual is a process, thinking if you like, intellect is the
> specific function of S/O divide.  

Yes "intellectual" is using intelligence the said the way.

> I believe we could theoretically given various human IQ tests over time
> periods from the caveman to the present and found a growth in the
> intellectual capacity of humans. 

The average caveman would certainly score just as high as present 
average man if a neutral IQ test could be worked out, but all such 
tests reflect the culture's values and ours is intellect-biased, so that's 
impossible.  

> The caveman may have in fact had some intellectual capacity but
> possessed none of intellect's values. 

I really don't think so re. the true "cave" era, there were no "skeptics" 
who doubted the myths, however when it comes to the last centuries 
before the Greek thinkers, maybe there occurred some proto-SOMists 
but these we will never know.    

> However it is was probably this "relentless interpretation of
> existence" that may have form the earliest of religious or spiritual
> awareness. 

Yes,  the social level is the start of "interpretations of existence" that 
also included a "life beyond" that's when burial rites began.    

> I don't know if was a product of SOM because SOM (intellect) had not
> been formulated yet.  Perhaps you could comment. 

Product of SOM? No, no, that's intellect which by and by started its 
crusade against all explanation based on gods (religions)  

 Bo:
> > As known we are (of) all levels and use our intelligence (thinking)
> > as much socially and biologically as intellectual, the latter when
> > we make an effort to be as impartial, calm and detached as possible
> > shunning emotions and even lower impulses from interfering.
 
> Mati: Yes the effort is made to be impartial, calm and detached, but
> we, even as we are using intellect, can not be devoid of the emotions
> or social values that support it. Even Dr. Spock, impartial, calm and
> detached as he was, had to function with a crew that functioned using
> emotions and various social values that did not follow logic.

Yes, of course, "society" is intellect's base, yet intellects effort to rise 
above "society"  it highly moral and just. Let there be no doubt about 
that ... to speak like Pirsig 

Sincerely

Bodvar