[MD] the Value of Think Again

[MarshaV]

Right Bo, and at the Quality Level the confusion and messiness does not
exist.


Marsha
 



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Marsha

8 Oct. you  wrote:

> Hi John
> You did say Judeo-Christian, and the Old Testament also is chocked
> full of misogynistic garbage.  I hope we're not going to travel down
> that theist track again. 

You are right. The notorious mis-informed John called Paul "greeky" 
and if that means Greek it's wrong Paul was as Jewish as they come. 
The point is that Jewdom and its even worse offspring Islam is the 
epitome of sexism, they are obsessed with segregation *). 
Christendom is in a way a rebellion against this, but it continued in the 
same vein for a millennium and a half with the Old Testament its 
focus, but after the Renaissance (the revival of the Greek spirit **) it 
has removed itself further and further from its "Semitic" roots and will 
hopefully break all ties with it  and - with the help of the MOQ - become 
a teaching of wisdom like Buddhism.

*) It's all explained by the MOQ, The Semitic type of religion is the 
most typical social pattern and social values' purpose is control of 
biological values and as sex is biology's most profound such, then 
control of sex is the social level's "obsession".

**) The revival of the Greek spirit is also the revival of intellectual
value 
after its hibernation during social values heyday during Medieval Ages.


Bodvar 

















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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of John Carl
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:57 PM To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] the Value of Think Again
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> Marsha,
> yes, I have considered the J-C understanding of women, most of the
> problem coming from that greeky paul, who is the only guy I know in
> the whole bible who said women should shut up and back off.
> 
> He's also the guy that didn't advocate having a wife, even tho all the
> other apostles did.  Then you get the whole patriarchical roman empire
> muddying the waters and you have today, a system which is stupid and
> incomplete.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> I think women are very important.  Where would I get my pie and my
> babies if it weren't for women?  So get pregant and back into the
> kitchen and realize your own fundamental value - just kidding - but
> honestly,  my own particular introduction to the christian
> indoctrination was very slanted in this regard because the leader and
> prophet of the whole organization was a woman.
> 
> So a lot of theological defensiveness was developed over the years and
> absorbed by me on YOUR side on this question.  The whole raison d'etre
> of SDAism is overthrow of Romish ideas like Sunday observance and
> spiritually inherent patriarchy, natural immortality of a "soul" and
> doctrines of original sin and other such pagan ideas.
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> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:27 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> > John,
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> > Have you considered the Judeo-Christian understanding of women? 
> > There's where you might think again.
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> > Marsha
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of John
> > Carl Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:17 PM To:
> > moq_discuss at moqtalk.org Subject: [MD] the Value of Think Again
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> > >From the point of view of the theory of evolution, mankind is only
> > >one
> > species among thousands which have their place within the field of
> > life on earth. The fact that people took the theory of evolution as
> > an enemy of religion shows only how rigidly they understood the idea
> > of God. But the same may be said of scientist and others who now
> > comfortably accept that the theory of evolution has disproved the
> > Judeo-Christian understanding of
> man.
> > As we shall see, this only shows how rigidly they have understood
> > nature.
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> > Jacob Needleman, explicating the need to "think again".
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