[MD] the Value of Think Again

[MarshaV]

Fernando,

I have read:  “Causes and results are infinite in number and variety.
Everything affects everything.  In this universe, when one thing changes,
everything changes.  Hence the great power of man in changing the world by
changing himself.”  Mr. Pirsig has written something similar.  


Marsha





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I do have the power of telepathy, but still think in those poor little words
(fortunatelly!).  i don't believe it's the answer to your prayers...







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> I agree with you John.  While religion and science walk hand in hand
> as part of the intellect, they do speak from different places.  When one
> applies the logic of science to true belief, of course it doesn't 
> fit.  While 
> Spiritual thought often tries to convey understanding using logic
> it is really the wrong language.  This would of course be solved by
> telepathy, where words are not needed, only feelings are conveyed.
> Since, ultimately, that is all words do, convey a feeling from one to
> another, in rather a primitive way I might add.  Thus all the arguments in
> philosophy.  While telepathy exists, we do not know how to intentionally
> use it.
>
> One could say that the believer and the scientist operate by 
> independent rules and laws, kind of like the levels of Quality.
>
> Willblake2
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:16:39 AM, "John Carl" <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> From:   "John Carl" <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> Subject:    [MD] the Value of Think Again
> Date:   October 8, 2009 9:16:39 AM PDT
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> From the point of view of the theory of evolution, mankind is only one
> species among thousands which have their place within the field of life on
> earth. The fact that people took the theory of evolution as an enemy of
> religion shows only how rigidly they understood the idea of God. But the
> same may be said of scientist and others who now comfortably accept that
the
> theory of evolution has disproved the Judeo-Christian understanding of
man.
> As we shall see, this only shows how rigidly they have understood nature.
>
> Jacob Needleman, explicating the need to "think again".
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