[MD] the Value of Think Again

[skutvik at online.no]

My favorite "prügelknabe" John.

wrote on 9 Oct.:

> *Paul of Tarsus*, also called *Paul the Apostle*, the *Apostle
> Paul*, or *Saint Paul*, (Ancient Greek
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_language> : ?????
> (*Saul*), ?????? (*Saulos*), and ?????? (*Paulos*);
> Latin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin> : *Paulus* or *Paullus*;
> Hebrew<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language> : ???? ??????
> *Sa?ul HaTarsi* (*Saul of
> Tarsus*)[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_of_Tarsus#cite_note-1>
> (died *c*
> 64-65),[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_of_Tarsus#cite_note-Har
> r is.2C_p._411-0> was a Hellenistic Jew
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_Judaism>[3]<http://en.wiki
> pe dia.org/wiki/Paul_of_Tarsus#cite_note-BritSP-2> 

> Now Bo, I could also post you some more wiki on what "Hellenism" is
> but hopefully you'll figure it out like you did the other term I
> used "greeky". Here's a hint - they're synonomous. 

The fact remains that Saul - who Christendom later called Paul -
was born and raised a Jew, and that was our question  ... no? 

Now that much said I agree with you about Paul becoming "greeky" 
by and by, in my words the one who pried early Christendom loose 
from its Jewish roots and headed it towards "Greek thought" (towards 
intellect in our lingo) by repeating and reinforcing Jesus' rebellion 
against Mosaic Law, thus started Christendom on its  long 
"antisemitic" journey (in a positive sense).      

> More importantly, the influence of greek thought is plainly there -
> its in the language as written, for one thing, it's in Paul
> misogynistic tendencies for another.  And it was  strongly present
> in the Jewish intellect of that time.

Agree except "Jewish intellect" (Q-intellect is neither "thinking" nor 
"culture" but in this context "secularism") Jewish culture is the 
epitome of Q-social value and regards Q-intellect (secularism) its 
enemy, you see how orthodox Jews hate the secular state Israel as 
much as the Palestinians *) This is common for Judaism and Islam 
which I call "Semitism".  

Regarding Paul's "misogynism". Even if he tried he could not free 
himself totally from his Jewish roots, but the semitic "sex apartheid" 
was/is not any hate of women - far from that - it's protection (as they 
see it) menfolk are so easily roused that they will assault them at the 
slightest pretext.  


Bodvar