[MD] the Value of Think Again

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John

10 Oct.

Bo before 
> > The fact remains that Saul - who Christendom later called Paul -
> > was born and raised a Jew, and that was our question  ... no?
 
> A Jew that's been reprogrammed in Greek language and culture is not
> the same thing.  That's what we're talking about.

OK, you don't like being told anything so I magnanimously declare 
agreement. 

> You have a rather interestingly jumbled idea of history.  But the
> point I wish to dwell on, that interests me, is the same defect in
> reason that Phaedrus found and thrashed, exists in all modern
> Christianity through the Greek filter provided by Paul.

I apply the MOQ and it certainly gives a new and interesting twist to 
everything including history. It's view is that the intellectual level that 
emerged with the Greeks (SOM in ZAMM) and that this followed the 
Romans into the areas they occupied, thus Jesus was a first 
intellectual effort to control the social value-steeped Judaism and 
Paul continuing this effort and Christendom growing more and more 
"intellectual". 

Phaedrus' attack on "Reason" (intellect)  and Reason dominating "all 
modern Christianity through the Greek filter provided by Paul" I could 
not agree more. This is my point about Christianity almost having torn 
its Semitic bonds and become all-intellectual. We have pastors in this 
country who don't believe in the Semitic type God (thanks Goodness) 
but it's a long haul, the Old Testament thumpers are still around and 
does not differ much from the muslim Koran-thumpers.    

> > Regarding Paul's "misogynism". Even if he tried he could not free
> > himself totally from his Jewish roots, but the semitic "sex
> > apartheid" was/is not any hate of women - far from that - it's
> > protection (as they see it) menfolk are so easily roused that they
> > will assault them at the slightest pretext.

My sarcasm here was misunderstood by Marsha, but never mind

> Well that has nothing to do with semitic cultures... that's just the
> way things are everywhere.  Why just the other day I saw a woman, and
> so I had to assault her on some pretext.

OK, not with Semitic as such but with social-steeped cultures of which 
the Semitic are the staunchest defenders of these days. As I tried to 
explain earlier: Proliferation is THE biological value, and as society's 
purpose is the control of biology, control of sex is its obsession, and 
we see how Jewdom's and Islam's  "holy text" are just an collection of 
"biology control" rules. Noting about saving of soul (Greek's intellect 
soul/body distinction)       

> I regard Paul as misogynistic mainly because of his words - things
> like, "I will not suffer a woman to speak in church" and stuff like
> that.

Again, he was an intellectual pioneer and could not free himself from 
all social bonds. We are now pioneers of the new metaphysical 
upheaval, but the ties with intellect is immensely strong ... as you 
constantly demonstrate. (SMILEY)

Bodvar