[MD] irony and socrates

[X Acto]

Ian to Bo:

Some hope : You suggested.
"Every single intellectual pattern is about debunking the social [PoV's]."

Nice idea. A hierarchical relationship of Intellect over Social -
which is where we started.
But, so many questions.
Are all social PoV's in need of debunking ?
Are all intellectual PoV's free of social prejudices ?
How can we tell a good / intellectual PoV from an inferior / social PoV ?
(How do we do any of that if intellect = SOM ?)

Ron:
Great questions Ian, How IS any of that done if intellect equals SOM.
SOM equalling intellect is already the universaly agreed apon assumption.
Universal agreement is a social pattern. 
SOM Academia is a socially revered institution, ones social status, 
and authority are associated with it. Intellectual authority is a social level
distinction.
The agreement that subjects and objects are reality, is a social level agreement.
One we as westerners have been taught to obey or risk being socially ostracized 
as "insane". The point of Pirsigs books. The refusal to accept certain social norms
based on intellectual ideals. It causes alot of friction, the example of the Zuni brujo
comes to mind, Pirsigs own experiences, the insight that this struggle is everyones
struggle. Fact is, Pirsig desperately wanted to make a distinction between those that
are trying to destroy society from those trying to improve society. To distinguish
the christs from the criminals.
Static intellectual prejudices are socially dominated intellectual patterns.
SOM is a socially dominated intellectual pattern. Pirsig states that a lower
form of good dominating a higher form of good is bad.
The highest form of good is thinking for yourself regardless of what society 
tells us to think even what Bo or Pirsig tells us to think.
Value, your own personal value. Develop it and be free.

By accepting the idea that S/O is the intellectual level one accepts the yoke
of western societies standards of thinking.