[MD] irony and socrates

[Marsha]

So?

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On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> you are the only one treating them that way
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Marsha <valkyr at att.net>
> To: MoQ <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 10:50:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] irony and socrates
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>
> Steve,
>
> Love, good, and infinity can be objectified and manipulated; that is
> exactly what you did in your paragraphs below.
>
> The Intellect Level is comprised of patterns that represent the
> process of objectfying and manipulating abstract symbols:
> "Objectificationt is the process by which abstract concepts are
> treated as of they were concrete things or physical objects.  In this
> sense the term is synonym to reification."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>> ------
>>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Marsha <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> If the question is whether the patterns in the Intellectual Level  
>>> are
>>> subject/object in nature, I still agree with you Bo.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you could mean when you say this. If your point is
>> that all patterns can be thought of as either subjects or objects,
>> even if I grant that that is true (which I don't since I think
>> concepts like good and love and infinity and experience among others
>> will give us trouble here), that still leaves the question of whether
>> they are *best* thought of that way. Also, the habit of mind of
>> distinguishing between subjects and objects is just one among a
>> multitude of intellectual patterns such as preferring simpler over
>> more complicated explanations (when all else is equal) and preferring
>> explanations that describe a wide range of experience over ones which
>> describe only a particular narrow set of experiences and preferring
>> explanations that cohere with other explanations that we have already
>> selected.
>>
>> Best,
>> Steve
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