[MD] Problems with Intellectual control of Society

Wed Oct 14 08:00:18 PDT 2009

by the way Marsha,
I think it's highly masciline of you to decide for Arlo what he should and should not consider 
threatening. Not to mention belitting him for feeling that way...thats something a man would do.

----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 10:52:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Problems with Intellectual control of Society

that would be me....I'm the biggest wimp on a harley in Pa.

I just sit on it in the garage and pretend I'm riding.

----- Original Message ----
From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
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Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 10:30:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Problems with Intellectual control of Society

Arlo,

In spite of what you may think I should have said, I was very upset. Dave I
someone I really care about.  

As far as Nick's threats, I think you may be the biggest wimp on a Harley in
the state of Pennsylvania.

Marsha

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Arlo Bensinger
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:48 AM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Problems with Intellectual control of Society

[Marsha]
I was very upset that dmb walked away, but then I was very upset that 
Nick was driven away.

[Arlo]
Nick was not driven away. He was suspended from the forum by the 
moderator after making repeated threats of gun violence.

And you're being "very upset that DMB walked away" consisted of "I 
guess he can't take what he dishes out". Yeah, that's "very upset". 
But don't lose sight of my reply to Platt here. I'm not making 
comments about DMB's "politeness", his interactive style or anything 
else like this. I am only bothered by the apparent glee that his 
departure has garnered by some, and I find this quite pathetic in a 
forum where he has received very high praise regarding his 
understanding from the very man whose ideas we are (ostensibly) here 
to discuss.

When Platt said "DMB needed a lot of help", he could not have been 
referring to DMB's understanding of the MOQ, since Pirsig himself has 
said otherwise. Was  it his politeness? Maybe, but again I'd choose 
someone who is impolite but understands the MOQ a great deal to 
someone who is polite but offers nothing of value. Mental state? Who 
do you think needs help more. DMB for being bombastic or Nick for 
repeating threats about shooting people until the moderator, a pretty 
laid back and easy going guy if there ever was one, decided to 
intervene? (By the way, I am not Horse. If you want to challenge 
Horse's decision again, you'll need to take it up with him.) But I 
will say this, I never once cheered that Nick was gone, nor have I 
once made a dismissive remark about him since.

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