[MD] EvO~lution and a VaLue centered metaphysics

Thu Oct 15 12:45:30 PDT 2009

Hi Ron

OMG!  As I was falling asleep the other night, I thought this exact same
thing.  But we cannot ask the world to readjust.  Best explain that this is
how the conventional, patterned reality has evolved to function, but seen
from the Quality Level all is unpatterned experience and patterned
experience with no need of explanation.  Patterned experience falls through
and experiences all levels, and of course while unpatterned experience can
be experienced it is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable. 

Marsha

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Marsha:
Intellectual patterns are a subject/object process.  

Pirsig:
But we see subjects and objects as 
reality for the same reason we see the world right-side up although the
lenses 
of our eyes actually present it to our brains upside down. We get so used to

certain patterns of interpretation we forget the patterns are there.

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 I'm not sure a relativist believes that s/o = intellect.
I think a relativist believes that intellectual patterns are 
relative to the individual.

contrarian? perhaps?

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Whoopee!  I'm a relativist. Oh, but I said that months ago.    

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"'What holds a person together is his patterns of likes and dislikes,' he
said. 
'And what holds a society together is a pattern of likes and dislikes. And
what 
holds the whole world together is patterns of likes and dislikes. History is

just abstracted from biography. And so are all the social sciences. In the
past 
anthropology has been centered around collective objects and I'm interested 
in probing around to see if it can be better said in terms of individual
values. 
I've just had feelings that maybe the ultimate truth about the world isn't 
history or sociology but biography,' he said."

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