[MD] Time for a short break

Jan-Anders jananderses at telia.com
Fri Oct 16 06:32:34 PDT 2009


Greetings John Carl and all.



At the return from a 4-day vacation I find my mailbox over crowded with 
moqtalk...even one seldom seen answer on one of my own.. lost in the 
long row . .
Reminds me about what happened to RMP in ZAMM before he got the ZAP 
(Electroconvulsive therapy.) Seems like its more Pirsigology and 
patternizing here than exploring the Methaphysics of and behind Quality.

Anyway, trying to keep short and well focused on the main problem: I am 
using this reading "Would this make it possible to apply Quality on 
teaching Rhetoric and by that my reciepmake a better job?" on any 
subject for this dicussion, which, indeed, doesn't help me much..

By that reason I now declare that I have been following this dicussion 
for a while and really enjoyed much of it but now I have decided to take 
a short break for another project, namely, writing about the metaphysics 
of and behind Quality. I will report when it's ready. It will be written 
in english. You can always reach me by my mail adress.


Until then I put some short steps of it into this forum for your 
pleasure to go back to if you sometime feel bored.

1. We know that thinking exist as Descartes showed us by questioning his 
chritical view. Thinking related to itself.
2. Kant showed us that time and causality existed 'a priori' as a deeper 
level of the chritical thinking. i e The seqeuncial dimension is needed 
to form concepts and to express sentences. A question comes before the 
answer..
3. In the same way he proved that room has to be  'a priori'. To be able 
to contain more than one subject or object. If there is two of something 
there must be a dividing space between.
4. There are also energy available undergoing the laws of entropy. We 
can prove that energy exist 'per se' in the same way as we kno that it 
takes energy to do that test. We also know that there is nothing like 
"nothing".
5. All mass, or if we prefer to call it energy, appears in some pattern, 
which for members of this forum are very well known an discussed for a 
long time. Energy clumps are oriented in the room in relation to other 
clumps of energy. Energy clumps are also moving and thus changing 
position in the room. Repeated movements of energy are defined as 
patterns. Even if there is no energy at the moment or place the movement 
is known as a possible pattern for clumps of energy to follow.
6. These variations of clumped energy can affect other clumps and by 
that way start a new pattern at a higher or lower level. When parts of 
energy split up it is gooing to a lower level. When patterned energy 
merge into bigger parts it rise to a higher and more complex level. 
Clumped energy that doesn't fit to other like for example a single left 
shoe, is called "useless thing". How patterned clumps of energy can fit 
or don't fit together is a very interesting world.


These are some of the conditions for the reality where it should be 
possible to apply Quality on teaching rhetoric. A type of artistic 
balance between no. 4, 5 and 6 is my receipt for success. A balance 
between force, method and message. With some effort you can see that 
there are some certain emotional 'colors' for each one of them to guide 
your work on it.  Too much or to less of any of these points is spoiling 
the party.

Z U

Jan-Anders



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