[MD] Every Day is a Winding Road

[mark_maxwell at talktalk.net]

Hi John,

I like that song, I think I’ve heard it a few times and it got my attention on all levels.

　

I want to express my gratitude, along with my version.

First: Quality is defined only in Experience.

This formulation seems simple enough and not incongruent with the MoQ, but is more far reaching than appearances first display. For congruent experiences of Quality help build a picture of what Quality is. And there's a multiplying effect, I believe. Just as in the principles of permaculture and Fukuoka gardening where "the more life you got, the more life you get." The more Quality you share, the more Quality there is. So the definition of Quality is an ongoing communal process, while the objective 
 or intellectual definition of Quality is impossible.



Squonk: Wish to add that symbols may be cultivated also, and the intellectual garden is beautiful and rich indeed.

　

Second: The levels are evolutionary latchings oriented along a DQ/sq axis which defines morality on every level AND creates an evolutionary hierarchy through the levels.

Thus ultimately, true morality is defined not by a static ordination, but by orientation toward the dynamic. An important understand of the term "Dynamic" is that it doesn't always mean growing or changing. Many systems exist in a dynamic tension which is very stable and yet just the opposite of stuck or static. It is a centered place where the options are expanded. It is the opposite
  of static and it is opposed to chaos. Chaos or disorder is not dynamic. It always looks the same, like a tv turned on to a non-station with static filling the ears and eyes. Static is chaotic. Chaos is static. The dynamic blossoms and changes like a bud into a flower. The DQ in biological evolution is called "adaptability". That which is more adaptable is more dynamic, even when active adaptation is not occuring.



Squonk: Reading this is a bit like that unexpected footprint in the sand. Bloody hell, someone else actually sees this the way I do.

John: ‘Many systems exist in a dynamic tension which is very stable… …a centered place where the options are expanded. It is the opposite of static and 20it is opposed to chaos.’



My third and final (for now) semi-heretical statement: The 4th level's highest static value is the third. Intellectual quality does not exist until its written in books and handed along.



Squonk: I’m not sure you have made any heretical statements in the first and second parts here. And I’m not sure you are being heretical in the third.

If you mean the highest intellectual value is the social value of non-perishable media, even if that is oral tradition, then I think you may have a good point. The moq states that truth is high intellectual quality, but truth has to be maintained within a stable social tradition. If social tradition does not value non-perishable media, t
 hen non-perishable media can end up on the fire.



I’m reminded of something a friend of mine, David Boyce, told me recently: Apparently a bunch of rich Arabian oil men had bought some of Europe’s finest antique furniture because, being nouveau riche, they felt it was the done thing. But one night, old patterns asserted themselves and they had a traditional Arabian desert fire in their home: Louis XIII shaped fire wood burned in the centre of one of the rooms and allot of drinking and merriment ensued.

Imagine the last copy of ‘Great expectations’ going that way…

All the best,

squonk