[MD] Essence of the MOQ

[John Carl]

Platt,
 "liking what we like" is an emotional response; you and I are in concord.

I used to think that Truth was the highest value of the 4th level.  But some
great minds have overthrown the truth of their cultural context in order to
bring out a higher truth that is apprehended first as an aesthetically -
oriented urge.   Thus I'm of the mind that the Romantic aspect of
mind/consciousness is primary to mental evolution, the place where the
dynamic rubber intersects the metaphysical road.  And all that classically
oriented intellectual stuff  wherein we "make up reasons" comes later.  Thus
my argument with Bo that SOM can't be the 4th level.  It's not even the
primary aspect of the 4th level.


Romantical/Dynamic individual realization followed by classical/static
formulation to share with society.

When this new static pattern is introduced to society, it seems to the
society "dynamic change", until accepted, and static dogma ever after.

An ongoing pattern of intellectual/social evolution which explains
everything.

There.

John the satisfied



On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:16 PM, <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:

> All:
>
> Accidentally came upon the following quote that captured the essence of
> the MOQ in a sentence:
>
> "Most of us, when all is said and done, like what we like and make up
> reasons for it afterwords."  -- Soren F. Petersen
>
> A quick Google search didn't reveal much about who Petersen is (or
> was), but he says value first, intellect after -- or as Pirsig put it when
> someone sits on a hot stove:
>
> "But that the quality is low is absolutely certain. It is the primary
> empirical reality from which such things as stoves and heat and oaths
> and self are later intellectually constructed." (Lila, 5)
>
> Two expressions of the same metaphysics, where value precedes all
> ideation.
>
> One expression I've heard that expresses the value-first reality: "I'm a
> good (or not so good) place.
>
> Here's hoping you're in a good place today. Perhaps later we can talk.
>
> Platt
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