[MD] Some historical perspective

[MarshaV]

Ian,

It seems obvious to me that intellectual patterns establish a self and an
object for consideration/manipulation.  I haven't found an intellectual
pattern yet that doesn't bifurcate in such a manner.  

As far as evaluating the merits of various patterns, once the nature of all
patterns is understood, how much actual difference does it make?  And why?
Leave those squabbling and soar with Johnathan.  Or in my case, soar with
Ludwig. Isn't the idea to lift human understanding, not just to decide
whether to have pancakes or democrats?  


Marsha
  



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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Ian Glendinning
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Subject: Re: [MD] Some historical perspective

Precisely my point Marsha.

DQ "kills" intellect
Intellectual PoV's are "superior" to social,
Social PoV's are superior to .... etc .

Absolutetly nothing here with which to recognize or evaluate the
relative merits of different patterns of DQ.
Is any and all DQ equally good ? Total relativism.

This is just too simplistic an iterpretation of MoQ to be of practical
value.
Where is the "rationality" for real world decision-making - what is
good, here, now, today my next meal, the next vote ?

Ian

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> Ian,
>
> 'Cultural heritages and traditions' is really too general a term for
> consideration.  Art, well, that belongs to the Code Of Art process.
> Inferior is not a term I've used for 'cultural heritages and traditions.'
 I
> have stated clearly that a shaman may be immensely more intelligent than
an
> intellectual.
>
> It is my interpretation that at the moment(now) when action needs to be
> taken one should drop the thinking/ evaluation and 'do the right thing',
> "And what is good, Phædrus, And what is not good...  Need we ask anyone to
> tell us these things?"  For me that is also the meaning of:
>
> "Kill all intellectual patterns.
> Kill them completely
> And then follow Dynamic Quality
> And morality will be served."
>
>
>
> Marsha
>
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