[MD] Marsha's (s)OL: the question

[MarshaV]

William Shakespeare Sonnet #55  

Not marble, nor the gilded monuments
Of princes, shall outlive this powerful rhyme;
But you shall shine more bright in these contents
Than unswept stone besmear'd with sluttish time.
When wasteful war shall statues overturn,
And broils root out the work of masonry,
Nor Mars his sword nor war's quick fire shall burn
The living record of your memory.
'Gainst death and all-oblivious enmity
Shall you pace forth; your praise shall still find room
Even in the eyes of all posterity
That wear this world out to the ending doom.
So, till the judgment that yourself arise,
You live in this, and dwell in lover's eyes.








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Love is for poets and that's all i know, folks!











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> Hi Bodvar,
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> Just an emotion, eh?  A spark fired across a gap?  If
> you can explain that to me then maybe we'll get
> somewhere.  This so called intellect is just complex
> communication which is an extension of
> the so called emotion.  A way to share emotion
> if you will.  This is why metaphysics based on the
> intellect as something different, something special,
> something exclusively human, falls apart.  
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> Not to say that our experience is not something grand,
> something special.  Our personal presence here
> is indeed that!  It's just explained in the wrong way.
> It's a self serving intellect; can only be.
>
> Mark
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> On Oct 25, 2009, at 12:55:05 AM, skutvik at online.no wrote:
> From:   skutvik at online.no
> Subject:    Re: [MD] Marsha's (s)OL: the question
> Date:   October 25, 2009 12:55:05 AM PDT
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Hi Marksmit
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> 24 Oct. you wrote:
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>> LOVE
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> If this is supposed to be a non S/O intellectual pattern you missed the 
> mark ;-) Love is an emotion, but this is what ails you all in thinking 
> that everything that goes on inside a brain is "intellect". Thus the 4th. 
> level emerged when the first neuron fired a "spark" across the gap to 
> the next. In the Jurassic Age or a couple of ages before that.
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> Bodvar
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>> On Oct 24, 2009, at 11:20:28 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Marsha's (s)OL: the question
>> Date: October 24, 2009 11:20:28 AM PDT
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
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>> p.s. ,,, but it does seem to be what has been one here to reify both
>> "cultures of oral traditions", "cultural heritages and traditions".
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>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
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>> Greetings,
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>> Okay, maybe I was not clear enough. I asked "Please present an
>> intellectual static pattern of value that doesn't represent a self
>> that manipulates something." I meant present some particular/specific
>> example of an intellectual static pattern of value that is not som,
>> not something like "cultures of oral traditions", "cultural heritages
>> and traditions", or 'blue sky'. 
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>> And with the specific example include a straight forward explanation
>> indicating how it _functions_ without the implication of a self that
>> manipulates some other thing. With a number of examples demonstration
>> non-subject/object interpretation, a category such as 'cultures of
>> oral traditions' can be built.
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>> Marsha
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