[MD] [MD} The relativity of the MoQ

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Bo:
Objectivism  (Rationality) along with subjectivism (Irrationality) is what 
the MOQ rejects  AS REALITY'S GROUND and makes into (the value 
of) its intellectual level. In the following I'll use this variety of the S/O.

Ron:
You posit DQ/SQ AS REALITY'S GROUND.a truth that remains true everywhere, 
independently of human thought or feelings. correct?

Bo:
SOM emerged as rationality, but simultaneously irrationality emerged, 
it's what darkness is to light, what intellect contemptuously called the 
past (what we know as the Social level). 

Ron:
So, subjectivity, the idea that the truth of moral statements depends upon people's values, attitudes, feelings, or beliefs. is the past. the social level.

Bo:
Thus irrationality is part of 
intellect's repertoire, and why I call it the value of the distinction (the 
elements themselves has no existence) 

Ron:
The intellectual level has no existence, ok.

Bo:
The Social level is from before 
intellect and consequently knows no "irrationality" and dislikes being 
called so (by intellect)  the devout believer says that God is beyond 
rationality's "jurisdiction", God is neither objective nor subjective. 

Ron:
then what is God?

Bo:
And s/he is right, what God really is the MOQ has no opinion about 

Ron:
I thought MoQ covered everything?

Bo:
(real/irreal is intellect's business) it just says that rationality is a  higher 
static good. We may however have dynamic insights and raptures 
where all static patterns are transcended, but these  do not transcend 
the MOQ, because it IS the Dynamic/Static distinction itself. Here's 
where Pirsig went too far from fear of not sounding "dynamic" enough.

Ron:
Rationality is a higher static good, objective rationalism is better than subjective
value. Objective rationalism has dynamic insights and raptures. One of which
is the  Dynamic/Static distinction itself, the TRUE split of physical reality, correct?

Bo:
Most of the alleged moqists claim that the intellectual level is a mental 
realm of ideas, SOM one idea, the MOQ another. I don't call them - 
Ron f.ex -  stupid, but something important is missing in their 
understanding. Mental/Corporeal is another S/O and what the MOQ 
rejects as fundamental consequently there is no idea realm different 
from a material ditto  -  outside of the 4th. level, that is.  

Ron:
not mental/corporeal  but language/experience language is not
merely mental and experience is not merely corporal.

first lets remember that expereince is not corporeal, it being corporeal
is an idea, an objective idea.
second language is part of expereince but it is not immediate expereince
the expereince that comes before thoughts or words.

so your assertion is a straw man.








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