[MD] [MD} The relativity of the MoQ

[MarshaV]

Greetings Bo,

It is what happens when the mind is not in operation that is more
interesting.  


Marsha
 
 
 

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Marsha and Ron.

Marsha said to me (before Ron turned meteorologist)

> I'm still with you.  The Intellectual Level is about objectifying
> abstract symbols:

To be forthcoming I may have tried to accommodate this but I feel lost, 
why not the infinite simple: Intellect is the ability to distinguish between

S and O - in this case - abstract and concrete.

My dictionary says about "INTELLECT"

    The power of mind to reason in contrast with feeling and 
    instinct.

"Power of mind" we may omit for what is not PoM? "Feeling" is MOQ's 
Social level and "Instinct" is the Biological, thus from inside Intellect 
seen feelings are SUBJECTIVE while itself is OBJECTIVE (instincts 
are too primitive to be considered).   

However, we see things from above all static levels and from there 
intellect is the VALUE of this distinction. The Social level itself isn't 
subjective because it is from before the S/O distinction.

Ron has donned blinkers and not willing to see, but for those with the 
full vision it's obvious. However, it's the SIMPLICITY that prevents the 
true understanding of the MOQ. 

However as an exercise for Ron: In ZAMM (in the diagram page) 
Pirsig depicts SOM as equal to intellect (the only level at that stage) 
    
As not to distract you I'll return to the "Chinese philosophy" later.


Bodvar












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