[MD] [MD} The relativity of the MoQ

Wed Sep 2 07:10:06 PDT 2009

Ron,

Must I remind you that this request I've made for you to supply an example
of a non-subject/object intellectual pattern is the same request I made May
4th to which you responded:  
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At 01:57 PM 5/4/2009, Ron wrote:
Marsha,
I'm still working on the "evidence", I have a rather half decent arguement
for
this position in the works but I feel we are both onto something, the
realization
that MoQ is an acultural conceptual pattern not so much a meta-intellectual
one
which is my arguement with Bo.
thnx!!
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Still working on it are you?

Marsha

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If you agree that these examples are indeed intellectual patterns,
how can intellectual patterns not be on the intellectual level?

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Ron,

That's correct. Music, painting and dance are within the code of art.

Marsha

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Marsha:
I still agree with Bo that the Intellectual Level is the where patterns are
concerned with the objectification of abstract symbols, and I do not feel
uncomfortable that you, Ron, or even Steve, disagrees with me.    

Can you supply an Intellectual static pattern of value that is not
subject/object oriented??? 

Ron:
All intellectual patterns are not subject/object oriented
it's in the interpretation of them, therefore any intellectual
pattern I supply will therefore be interpretd as subject/object by you
if thats the way you want to interpret them.

thats the whole point of Pirsigs work

lets see

music
painting
dance

all intellectual patterns that are not subject/object oriented

unless you want to view them that way

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