[MD] The relativity of the MoQ

[Andre Broersen]

Marsha to Ham and Andre:
I agree that meditation can lead to experiences of Ultimate Reality (DQ),
and a few minute sip of such an experience can deeply alter the context of
all experience.

Andre:
Hi Marsha, yes, I agree and I am intrigued (and perhaps slightly worried as
well) by the 'Still Zen after All These Years' interview wherein Pirsig
appears to suggest that to really understand Lila one needs to have gone
through  an 'enlightenment' experience (a la ZMM)...the 180 Zen and 360
Zen...after enlightenment ' and the world is exactly as it was when you left
it' (but you are changed of course).

What do you think?
Andre, the non-enlightened one