[MD] Loneliness

[David Thomas]

On 9/9/09 2:03 AM, "Bodvar Skutvik" <skutvik at online.no> wrote:

> I have read it all and find it most relevant. An gee Dave, if you could
> bring the discussion to the social level for a while because it is what
> sets the MOQ apart.

With the biological/social divided firmed up a little the next step in my
mind would be trying to clear up the social just prior to intellectual. But
I have to warn you that when I read this in the "relativity" thread:

(Bo earlier)
> Anyway this blunder resulted in the Quality/MOQ "meta-metaphysics"
> that overrides the MOQ and is a result from Pirsig's disastrous
> association with James whose view was Pre-conceptual/Conceptual.

I scrambled for the subscribe button.

I had been making what I think is my third pass though the 900 page tome
"The Writings of William James-A Comprehensive Edition- Edited by John J
McDermott and feeling philosophical decided to check the discuss archive to
review progress. Low and behold I hear you bashing both Pirsig and James for
screwing up the MoQ. Oh why? Oh why? I just couldn't let it lie.

As you are aware I believe James' work is foundational to the MoQ and that
an understanding of this is instrumental to its long term success. You
disagree, not just with me, but also RMP on this. I hope I can open your
eyes. Keep an open mind, I will try to be gentle.

But as you know graphics is my first language, English my second. So I write
slowly and think even slower. So it may take a while.

As a tease: Are you aware the James discusses in, (What make a Life
Significant) a trip to speak at the original Chautauqua as a vehicle to
discuss what was lacking in life? Or that in another lecture he discusses,
gumption?  Surely you would have to admit that the term "gumption" in not
one that commonly comes up in philosophical discussions. Mere coincidence?
Maybe.



Dave