[MD] Imaginings

[John Carl]

Ian,


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:

I like it. What is interesting (in your response to Platt) is that you
> still see "teachers" and you still see them having to "judge"
> students.


Teachers don't judge the students, they judge the quality of the student's
learning.




> I don't disagree, but I am having difficult discussions in
> another froum concerned with learning and using "wisdom" where there
> is tremendous prejudice against the idea that teachers may be (should
> be expected to be) wiser than students - that anything other than
> "facts" can be taught.
>
>

Well it brings to mind an interesting insight in that everyone hates being
subjected to subjective judgement, yet people crave objective feedback.  And
teachers and leaders get caught right in the middle of this sublimated
conflict.


> People seem to pay lip service to the value of values, but seem
> unwilling to be judged by anyone else with values - as if, ... unless
> those values can be objectively defined there can only be arbitrary
> relative subjective values (that debate again) ...
>
> I tend to use the "living processes of governance" arguments - but
> your OS metaphor might be interesting to try. The MoQ by any other
> name ... too juicy to miss indeed.
>
> Regards
> Ian
>
>
Well a living process of governance sounds to me like an Operating System,
so I'd say, using my metaphor, that that is your OS of choice.  For myself,
I'm fond of the Community Building Model, so that's my OS.  I'd be
interested to see the logical rules for yours, just for comparison purposes.