[MD] Uncertainty

[MarshaV]

Andre,

I been thinking about this.  There is a part of me that wants to describe
these sips of unpatterned quality.  But I hesitate maybe for much the same
reason as presented in your last post.  Every individual will probably have
different experiences based on some complex patterned context.  This must is
process too; do I want to set it up as something static?  No. I might say
that for a couple of months I sometimes felt like my consciousness was
squinting.  Doesn't that sound dumb?  And one day there it was?  Sounds even
dumber!!!  A high quality experience!!!   

Or with Bo, I argued against him constantly.  Then one day I was looking for
words to explain an idea and I just flipped.  Intellectualizing clearly
became one big subject/object, mind-twisting trap.  I struggled with it for
a while, but it was too obvious to deny.  But what I am describing in just
the mental description of experience, and sooo not the experience, and
description sooo doesn't matter.         

There's Krimel again, "AwGee..."   
 

Marsha




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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Andre Broersen
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [MD] Uncertainty

Marsha to Andre:
The minute I start to explain it, I'm intellectualizing it, separating the
me that is explaining it from the explanation of what _it_ is like.  It was
this realization that jolted me into agreeing with Bo.  There is the MoQ we
intellectualize.  There is the MoQ that represents 'Quality (unpatterned and
patterned(all spovs)) experience', which I agree with Bo should be a step
above the Intellectual S/O Level. The 'Quality experience' is still a
metaphor.  Every sentence I add will diminish the value, so I'll end it
here.
Andre:
Agree with you Marsha, you need say no more.

Andre:
On second thoughts Marsha, what good is a quality event (high or low) if, as
seems to be argued here on this discuss, you cannot scream it from the
rooftops. That, by putting it into words it detracts from the experience.
Yes, I am mindfull of the 'embedded in language' stuff but if we start to
exaggerate its detraction then we all need to shut up.
If you experience a high quality event then scream your delight.
If you experience a low quality event the scream your disgust.

But, I can't tell you what to do anyway so...do what you like..or
rather...nothing...or I don't care what you do...or....oh fuck this!

In kindness
Andre
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