[MD] concerning SOL??

[John Carl]

Ron,
I haven't had a chance to pop in and say I have learned a lot from you in
the past few weeks.  Your dialogue with Bo has helped me think through much.


Ian sez Marsha "gets it" best, but of all those who get it, I'd nominate you
as the one who gets it best.


I do not discuss MoQ here because I'm a prisoner or felt like one, but
> growing up sort of isolated from society, and within the culture
> of a bastardized modern/farmer/native amalgom, I have always
> felt outside, distinct and seperate from popular society which
> always seemed fake, contrived and plastic, out of touch with reality
> and the land.



That is the way I feel also.  And I bet most people who are committed to MD.
 The question then is how much value is to found in a group of anarchistic
introverts?    Its like trying to herd cats, with or without a cattle prod,
a tricky task.  But what option do we have?

"Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter
answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal
life."

Sometimes you just got no choice.



> It is only when I finally grasped what Pirsig meant, and everything
> clicked, that I understood, that I was back to where I was before,
> not with different eyes, but with an understanding of why I value
> the way I do. Why I am different and don't fit in.Why others
> do not value things the way I do.
>
> I think I have an answer to Ians question of what changed with me.
> I reached an understanding, all Pirsigs work clicked into place
> and it all functioned and made sense without any contradictions
> and I wanted to share this understanding and I am unable to.
> All I've drawn is ridicule and attack, leaving me frustrated.
>

The roller coaster rises, the roller coaster falls

Sometime the roller coaster safety bar bangs into your balls.

Sometimes the circle speed you up, sometimes it slows you down.

Doesn't really matter, it just keeps on coming 'round.

                 -- John Carl

My daily activities are not unusual,

I'm just naturally in harmony with them.

Grasping nothing, discarding nothing,

In every place there's no hindrance and no conflict.

Who assigns the ranks of vermilion and purple?   (Me?  Ian?  Ant?  RMP?)

The hills' and mountains' last speck of dust is extinguished.  (faith to
cast down mountains)

My supernatural power and marvelous activity?

Drawing water and carrying firewood.

                   -- Layman Pang