[MD] Uncertainty

[David Thomas]

On 9/10/09 10:31 AM, "Andre Broersen" <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave(Before):
> To put it in another way I believe that intellectual values,social values
> and maybe even biological values will have to evolve to higher levels of
> good prior to seeing any great improvement in the art of rebuilding our
> cities, towns, or countries. I hold out hope for the MoQ, but not much in my
> life time.
> 
> Andre:
> Hi Dave, pleased to meet you. I wonder how you see this evolving 'to higher
> levels of good' taking place. Is it happening outside of you? Do you have no
> bearing at all on this process?

We're all kind of immersed in this dynamic soup. It's changing all the time.
We, individually and as groups, have an active role in this "change soup".
It's figuring out now, what the future consequences of our actions will be
that is the really difficult thing. With a better understanding of this
multi-tiered order of complementary and competing values maybe we could make
better choices. But 99.99999% of the people in the world have never heard of
the MoQ. Even those like us who have, have trouble agreeing on what it means
let alone how to apply it to real world issues. But we're work'n on it.
> 
> I don't want to sound too naive but Pirsig's 'head, heart and hands' process
> is a place to start and something we have control over. This attitude can
> expand within our sphere of influence (family,friends, colleagues etc).

He left out "health". As a 10 year member of 4H in my rural youth this was
instilled starting at five. Let's see how my memory is: "I pledge my head to
better________ my heart to better_____, my heath to better living, and my
hands to better service for my family, my club, and my community." Not very
good! Another stable pattern destabilizing. Next thing you know I'll be that
pile of chemicals on a rock.

> Mind you, I'm not holding my breath either but someone has to start
> somewhere, some time, somehow as I am sure static patterns will not change
> by and of themselves

Well that's the kicker some of them do change without us (as individuals or
even groups) being able to do anything about it. Like the old saw, "Climate
is what we expect, weather is what we get." So figuring out how to deal with
that reality in a good way is the challenge.

Dave