[MD] Loneliness

[Ant McWatt]

Bo Skutvik stated to Ian Glendinning September 10th:


 

> Ian 
> 
> 9 Sep. you spoke:
> 
> > Bo, I too would like some new insight on your point.
> > Why is "the level's picture of itself" a fallacy, as opposed to a
> > possible view ? Same question as I just asked Marsha in fact, in your
> > view, where is this picture / view ?
> 
> It is the pesky "MOQ an intellectual pattern" issue. If MOQ is an 
> intellectual pattern we only get intellect's view (of the MOQ) .... as 
> another product of mind, another idea ...bla, bla. 
> 
> Intellect is supposed to be a MOQ "pattern"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. 
> 
> It's related to the equally pesky "Quality/MOQ" issue, the MOQ just 
> another web spun by mind (mind=intellect as defined by the 4th level). 
> Pirsig has in fact seen the problem here and have said that Quality is 
> MOQ's Dynamic Quality (Hello Anthony can you affirm this?) but when 
> he returns in his Oriental Mood it's "the same procedure".

 

 

Bo,

 

>From what I remember (from correspondence), Pirsig says (as a general rule of thumb), that the Quality he discusses in ZMM is the same as the Dynamic Quality in LILA.  This is seen, for instance, in the passages in ZMM when he equates the Tao in the "Tao Te Ching" with (Dynamic) Quality.  

 

It's also worth reminding new readers to Pirsig's work that the (static or) conventional MOQ (of LILA) states that Quality = Dynamic Quality + the static quality patterns (the MOQ being just one of many static intellectual patterns...) while in my PhD (see http://robertpirsig.org/PhD.htm), it's seen that there is also a Dynamic (or the "World of Buddhas") perspective of the MOQ where all static quality patterns are seen simply as secondary, ephemeral manifestations of Dynamic Quality.   

 

I hope that's helpful.     

 

Best wishes,

 

Anthony 

 


 

 

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